June 19

For writing into the day, we answered questions about Wikipedia (see slide 98 on the PowerPoint).  Then, we had the following discussion:

• It’s very easy to understand.  It gives 1-3 clear, precise definitions of what you’re looking for.  It is in different languages.
• It might not be current.
• You can check the sources on the bottom.
• It says whether it’s reliable or not.
• It’s a good one-stop source.
• It’s regular people write and check it.
• You could use the sources at the bottom.

• Yes because it’s a good starting point.  You can though go to other sources that might be more reliable.
• You can’t use it as a source but you can look at it for things you can use.
• It can be used as a reference guide but not as a main source.
• I won’t cite it in a paper, but I could check the sources at the bottom.
• Wikipedia is borderline plagiarism.
• You have to be careful when you use it.

• Use the sources at the bottom.
• Use it for key words.

In groups, we read “Understanding Plagiarism” and defined plagiarism in our own words.  In those same groups, we discussed the questions on slide 100 on the PowerPoint.

Definitions:

1. Literacy theft
2. Copying someone else’s work and not giving credit where credit is due

Answers to questions:

• If it’s someone else’s ideas, words and not common knowledge
• If you aren’t referring to a source, you don’t have to cite
• Copying words to word, summarizing, copy and paste

• Yes.  It’s better to be safe than sorry
• It’s an idea.  Ideas aren’t written down so you don’t have to cite it.
• If you get an idea from the paper, you have to cite the idea because it’s not your original idea.
• If it’s two different subjects, then no you don’t have to cite the original source.
• You’re not copying anyone’s words.  It’s coincidently someone else’s words.
• Yes because it’s still usable information.
• If you find it, yes you do have to cite it.
• You don’t have to cite it because you found it after you had to idea.
• You should cite it to be on the safe side.
• It’s the same as if you never found it.
• You should search for your idea before you write it anyway.
• If someone brings it to your attention, you should go back and cite them.
• It’s technically not yours unless no one else has written it.

• Yes, but we don’t like it.
• It’s your idea so you can’t plagiarize yourself.
• You’re not going to sue yourself.
• They say you’re supposed to cite yourself.
• You can plagiarize yourself.
• Using old information it’s not right.

• If it’s in multiple places.
• If every sources say it.
• Common grade school knowledge
• Established fact
• Wildly held belief

• It’s idea.
• They aren’t credible sources.  We aren’t published.
• You have to consent with whoever you are workshoppoing with and you put it in your own words.
• Your ideas are inspiring theirs and vice versa.  It’s revision.

Then, we went over slide 101 to discuss what plagiarism is in academia.

Finally, we discussed how to complete dialogic journal and practiced with the source we brought in today.

Homework:

• Complete instructor comments reflection on your blog
• Bring "Working Source Material into Your Argument" (on Moodle)

• Bring Examples for Using Sources handout (on Moodle)

• Bring MLA handout (on Moodle)

*Note: I have switch the activities for June 20 and June 24.  We will talk about quotations on June 20 and paraphrasing/summarizing on June 24.

*Note: On June 25, you will need to have completed all dialogic journals on your three secondary sources and bring them to class.